PODCAST TRANSCRIPT
Rachel Strella: Welcome to episode 10 of Untamed Social. Thank you guys for
taking this wild ride with us this season. It seems super fitting that we would do
sort of a Q&A for this final episode of the season. So we polled our listeners
and we have a couple of questions that we are going to answer for you guys
today. So the first one is a really good one and I feel like it was a good one for
me to answer. The, the question was, how do you balance professional and
personal use of social media? Um, and I'm thinking this, this would be
something for people who, um, do own a business or, or, or if somebody is like
maybe a business professional or in the C suite. Um, and so I think that the best
thing you can do there is really think about, um, you are your brand in essence.
So I remember somebody saying in a speech really, really early on in my
business, um, who you are any time is who you are every time and that's always
resonated with me. So like when I'm posting on social I'm realizing that like
obviously somebody could see this that and it could affect my business in some
way. And at the same time, like, I'm trying to be conscious of what I'm saying,
but not be overly cautious. I could give you some funny examples. Like, there
was one time I said the word asshole in one of my blog posts, and somebody on
my team, like, was really like, you should not say that in a post. Like, what if
one of our clients read that? That would seem so unladylike. And I was kind of
hung up on it, so I, I actually went in and like blurred out the word and I went
back and realized that it's kind of unrealistic to think that, like, I mean, I get that
it doesn't look that great, but it's one word in a blog post and I don't even know
that that client would be reading it. What are the chances? And if they're not
going to work with me anymore. At the same time, you really have to consider it.
Um, one more funny story. This is my favorite one, though. So, um. Our
biggest client found us. Um, I had a blog post on Medium. And the blog post
was called, Get Real, Shit Happens. And I did not know that this was how they
found us. I got the call and he said, I found you on Medium, I read one of your
blog posts. And when I found out where he was from, I got super paranoid. I
was like, oh no. And I actually took the blog post down, because I didn't want
him to see it. When I met him in person, which was almost a year later, I come
to find out that it was that blog post that intrigued him. So it goes to show you
that sort of being yourself on social media can be okay within reason. So when
you're balancing that, you kind of have to be authentic too.
Laney Goff: Yeah, I think it goes back to the age old, like, you're going to
attract people who are very similar to you. Like, your best clients, your best
customers are actually going to be very similar to you. So, if they're not in
alignment with you saying asshole on a blog or something like that, then they're
probably not going to be in alignment with you as a client either. And I just
stand by that, that the more that you show up as yourself, the more you're going
to find the people who are truly going to work well with you.
Rachel Strella: Right, right, right. Yeah, I mean, I'll say that maybe not
everybody at that organization would have agreed with that blog post, but that
particular leader did and found me and he was very forward thinking. So you
just never know.
Laney Goff: It worked out.
Rachel Strella: It worked out. All right, let's move on to the next question. So,
you know, right now we're in December and the new year is approaching. So,
um, could one of you offer maybe one or two key insights that could help
businesses thrive in 2025?
Jess Boozel: Yeah, Laney and I actually just talked about this on our podcast. I
think it was like two episodes ago, and we were talking about our predictions
for 2025. So this is a great question. Um, going back to you guys literally just
talking about being true to who you are on social media. I think that is going to
be huge in 2025 for businesses, because I feel like every year, businesses and
brands get more authentic online and they see that people want to see the real
and not something advertised or something that is very scripted on social media.
They want to see the real you. So I think we're going to see a lot more of that in
2025 for brands. And then another one is experimenting with video content. I
think that apps are getting way more developed. I mean, YouTube just started
with the three minute videos. So I just would take advantage of those new app
developments, like three minute videos, and that will be helpful for your brand
in 2025.
Laney Goff: I agree. Sorry I was just saying I agree.
Ella Gunnell: I feel like we're all kind of on the same wavelength right now. I
just wrote, um, we do blog posts as Rachel mentioned. And one of them that I
just wrote is about what sets like the really successful creators and brands apart
from people who see like a mild amount of success is-- there's a, there's a
couple of things. So one of the things I talk about is being true to yourself and
like being authentic and kind of not being afraid to just kind of put your whole
self out there and that can be really scary. And that's why I think more people
don't see success because it's terrifying. But I think that's one of the key
differences that like will set you apart from just being like an okay social
presence to like pushing you above and really helping you see that success.
Laney Goff: Yeah and Rachel just shared a Mark Schaefer blog post with us
earlier this week that really went deep into that like talking about Jaguar as a
brand and how they're so mediocre right as a luxury car brand. Nobody knows
about them, but and most people that you know, they're not purchasing those
vehicles They're going with Audi or BMW or Mercedes. But they've really like
taken a step out of the box when it comes to luxury brand marketing and
another example will be Nutter Butter. Like what is Nutter Butter doing?
Nobody knows what Nutter Butter is doing except like raving on TikTok. But
taking acid and doing what they do, I guess, when they eat cookies, but, um,
they also have, like, their name is everywhere right now. I mean, it's trending.
And so they're, they're getting their name back out there and they're getting
noticed. And so stepping out of that box, like you said, and really just taking
bold moves is what will set you apart.
Ella Gunnell: Yeah you're talking about them. Whether it's good or bad like
people are talking about them and they're memorable, like, they're staying with
you because of the things that they're doing. So, like, it's kind of that saying,
like, any press is good press. I kind of agree with that. Obviously, if it's bad
press, that's not great, but I think, like, controversy and, like, divisiveness can
actually be really beneficial if you do it correctly.
Rachel Strella: Yeah.
Laney Goff: Yeah
Rachel Strella: Right, yeah. Just along that line I saw John Webster posted this
Jaguar ad on Facebook of the Teletubbies, um, and Jaguar, and he goes, what,
what, what were they thinking? And I said, this is exactly what we're talking
about. You're talking about it, right? You know, and he's like, but if you position
this incorrectly, like it could blow up for a brand. Not a brand like them, you
know, like they're talking about them. So it works. You guys are right. So what
are we going to do next year? We'll see that. I'm curious to see what we're going
to do for our clients and get them out there in a different way with as decisive
strategies. All right. The next question is how do you constantly post to show
customers what you do without being boring or repetitive? Well, the one thing
I'll say for that is that we do what we do every day and we don't realize that we
have so much knowledge that is not actually boring and repetitive. So I'm just
like, for example, all right, I'm just going to play a game here. Anna, tell me one
thing about Canva that drives you crazy that most people probably don't know
about.
Anna Dobbert: In order to find, um, the creator of like one of those little
graphics that they make, you have to click like three different buttons and they
moved the original button from where it was. So it's an elaborate step to find,
um, images that are coming from the same designer and thus look identical or in
the same theme. And sometimes you get lost in the clicking menu and you have
to start over. And sometimes I have to close my laptop because I get really
stressed out.
Rachel Strella: And this is why her blog post has the most reads on the entire
year. Entire year, the number one blog on Strella this year. But you have all of
these nuggets in your head that you don't realize because you're working in it
every day. So, the thing is, is just to draw those nuggets out. Think about all of
the questions that you're asked every day of the things that you do every day,
um, and, and figure out how you could tell your audience that, and just do it in a
different way. Like when I'm getting a massage with Vixen I'm just fascinated
by the things she knows. I'm like getting in her head about all the knowledge
that she has, but she thinks she's boring. She doesn't know what to talk about.
I'm just fascinated by her. So you just have to be thinking that way.
Anna Dobbert: I totally agree with that. I think also like, people don't realize
how frequently people skip past their stuff on social media, and you do have to
say the thing however many times to get it through to people's brains, and I
really do like what you're saying about how it doesn't seem boring to average
people. It only kind of seems boring you. Like my mom is an abstract painter
and she's just starting up all of her socials and she's so confused on what to post
about it. Cause it seems so small and meaningless sometimes. And I'm like, take
a video of anything, take a video of literally anything and it will not be boring.
It will not be repetitive. It's exactly what you need.
Rachel Strella: Exactly.
Ella Gunnell: Yeah. I think the other thing people forget is that content on
social media is so short lived. Like, odds are no one is going to scroll back
through your feed six months ago, a year ago, even a month ago. No one's just,
scrolling back that far. And once your video goes out, it might have some
traction for a couple weeks, maybe if it's on TikTok, maybe it's a little longer.
But after that, it just kind of gets lost in, in space, in, in the Netherlands. So I
don't know where it goes. But all that is to say, like, you can absolutely share
the same thing. Don't feel like you're ever being too repetitive because you're
not. People probably didn't see it or they need to be reminded of it. I wish that I
could get that through to some of our clients and just anyone on social media
feeling like, oh man, I have to come up with, all this new stuff all the time. No
you don't. Just, just do the same things you're already doing.
Rachel Strella: Yes.
Anna Dobbert: And if you look at like your blog post, Ella, when you talk
about like the big players of social media, they're formulaic. Nara Smith makes
every video the exact same and people eat it up every time. If anything, being
repetitive is an advantage.
Rachel Strella: Yeah.
Laney Goff: Yeah. I agree with that. Literally the repetitiveness is like, it's so
funny because like, if you look at our Strella Instagram, this week we have a
post going out and it's just a single image about, um, social media being one
piece of the marketing mix. Next week we have a video going out it's a reel
about, the marketing mix and that social media is just one piece of it now
they're the same type of content, but we've formatted it differently if you're not
testing then you're not going to be able to see what is resonating well with your
audience and what's not what type of content do they prefer to consume over
another and so for me, I feel like yeah, they're one week apart but at the same
time we're gaining a lot of information and insight from testing that same type
of content in different formats. So for me I'm like repeat all day long. Even if it
means just tweaking it. I almost said twerking it a little bit. Tweaking it little bit
and.
Ella Gunnell: You could do that too, if you want. I don't know
Laney Goff: If want to. But yes, tweaking it just so that you can get some data
to understand what your audience actually likes to consume.
Rachel Strella: Speaking of twerking, one thing that. One thing I'll say is that I
think people think sometimes that their content is boring because they're
expecting that instant gratification. Like you post something and you're
expecting all these likes and comments and that's not, that's not realistic. Just
because you're not getting that instant gratification doesn't mean people aren't
reading it. You know, if they're not interacting, like it doesn't mean that it's
boring and not sinking in.
Laney Goff: Yeah, I agree.
Ella Gunnell: It's all the little pieces that like build up over time.
Rachel Strella: Right.
Ella Gunnell: People get to know you and then they get a full version of who
you really are.
Rachel Strella: Right, exactly. Okay, on to the next question. This is a really
good one. Alright, I recently came across a post from a local business owner
who praised a social media company for spending hours on site gathering
content and working closely with their team to understand their business. As a
virtual company, how do you ensure the same level of connection and
engagement with your clients?
Laney Goff: So I would love to take one on. Um, I think that our success is
really evident whenever you actually look at our testimonials, our case studies. I
mean, there's, there's a lot of support showing how successful we are with our
clients, but I think that there are two ways to really measure that too. Number
one, if you look at our team, um, we're all remote, we don't work together, but
the fact that we all have such a great system, a really great connection together,
it shows that each of us is really committed to that communication. Not only
between ourselves, but with our clients as well. I also think it's an advantage to
be virtual. I think it makes us more available. Um, are we there all the time to
come and capture content? No, but at the end of the day, that's not really who
our ideal client is. Our ideal client is somebody who's involved, who's willing to
do the work, and isn't looking for us to just fully take over everything and them
not be involved. Like we have to have their involvement in their accounts and
their social channels. So that's not exactly who we're going for but that's not to
say that we don't take that extra step to have that face to face time. I mean yes,
we're not there once a month, but we are having zoom meetings with the
majority of our clients once a month, if not every week, every other week. Um,
we really are flexible with working with our clients and what works for them.
Cause a lot of times you have business owners, they don't want to meet all the
time. I mean, they're, they're in a place where they're like, I'm busy and we
understand that. So our job is to be really effective in the communication side of
things, but to a point where they're able to do their own thing, manage their
business and check off their task list every day without having to worry about
the social media side of it. But it does involve them to some degree. So yes, it is
an advantage to have somebody come out and get content, but we do that too.
We have clients I know Jess is going out in a few weeks to a client to gather
some content. Um, it just depends on who that client is. But for us, that's just,
not exactly the client that we're looking for to work with.
Ella Gunnell: Yeah. I think that question kind of implies that, like you were
saying, we would just come in and do everything.
Rachel Strella: Yeah.
Ella Gunnell: And ultimately, like in order for any client to see the most
success, they're going to need to have some involvement and some buy in. So.
Either way.
Rachel Strella: Yeah.
Jess Boozel: Yeah, I agree. And I'm completely, I'm lucky that I live close to the
client that I'm going to see in a few weeks. Sometimes I do wish that we did
have, like, that in person, type of getting content, but at the same time, I'm
happy that we don't because there is like so much involved in what we do. I
would feel like we would need an extra person whose job was completely to
capture content. Like, it couldn't just be one of us. We would have to have an
extra person and that was their job.
Rachel Strella: Yeah, yes. And I mean, and the companies we work with, like
they have an in house team that can provide that content to us, you know? So
our job is to be really great at executing, really great at strategy, you know,
really great at all of those other things. We don't have to necessarily be the one
onsite gathering all the content too. So that that's a good thing. And one of our
core values is relationships. So if we have a really strong relationship with our
companies that we work with and really great communication, also another core
value, we can do this job just as great, if not better, um, than another social
media company could. So I'm not going to take that question personally.
Laney Goff: Yeah. No. And well, I think that's the, that's the other side of it that
I think people can get confused about is that we're not just a media management
company. We're social media management and consulting. So we, most of the
time, the majority of our clients, we're not just managing their socials. We're
also consulting with them on their strategy. We're giving them lists of ideas for
content. Um, we're structuring videos for them, giving them hooks. I mean,
we're, we're really in there doing the work and it's more than us just taking a
picture and posting it.
Rachel Strella: Yeah, yeah.
Anna Dobbert: It honestly feels like an entirely different set of services to have
someone gather that content. Like, yes, while they are for social, um, it's not
really the service we provide at all. Like, we are much more focused on the
other end of the spectrum.
Rachel Strella: Yeah.
Laney Goff: Mm hmm.
Rachel Strella: I mean, it's, it's, it's supporting service. Like, when I go to
Vistage I'm able to get a couple pictures if we have some local clients there. It
enhances it. But it's not what we do as a primary thing, you know. It's, it's, it's,
it's nice to have it as a sort of a side piece.
Laney Goff: Yeah well and we have clients who have sent products. Right so I
know that Anna has worked on that recently. I know Ella has made content in
the past with products sent by, uh, by some of our clients and, and she's made
her own videos and own content from, from those products sent to her. So that's
always an option on our end also.
Rachel Strella: Alright, moving on. Next question. I love this question. What's
your strategy for managing trolls without letting them ruin the vibe of your
page?
Ella Gunnell: Yeah, I might have an answer that clients might not want to hear,
but I would say just don't look at it.
Laney Goff: Yeah.
Ella Gunnell: And I say that because, it's kind of like we were talking about
earlier. I don't think that divisiveness and controversy is a bad thing. I don't
think you need everyone to love you. Obviously, it's different if you have actual
trolls who are, like, harassing you and, like, trying to, you know, ruin your page
and ruin your reputation. You can deal with that separately, either through
blocking them or maybe they're just mad about, you know, a customer service
interaction they had with you. You can try and mend that relationship. Um, but
ultimately, I would say just kind of don't worry about it because at the end of the
day, even if it's troll engagement, it's still engagement, and people are still
talking about you. So, I guess my strategy for managing trolls is just try not to
let it bother you too much.
Rachel Strella: Hmm.
Laney Goff: Yeah. I feel like at this day and age, it's inevitable. And no matter
what platform you're on, you're going to have somebody who's going to have
something negative to say. And it is unfortunate that that's how it is these days.
But, I mean, you really do have to just kind of turn a blind eye.
Ella Gunnell: Yeah, that's just kind of the name of the game. I'll literally see
like the most wholesome video, it'll be like a dog or something, like doing
something cute, and you look at the comments, and someone will say
something, like, something I'm like, I would never have even thought of that.
Like, that is so bizarre. But so, like, that's just kind of what comes with the
territory of being on social media.
Rachel Strella: I'm gonna, I'm gonna play devil's advocate here though and say
that, you know, you have to differentiate though between a troll and like just
somebody who is generally unhappy, you know, and like a bad customer service
interaction because that can really lead to a downward spiral when it's not
handled well. And I think that's, this is a good sort of selling point for our
company too, because that, you know, we get, we get, we have a couple of
customers who, um, they have people on their page who have customers that,
you know, have issues and how we resolve those issues is really important. So it
doesn't ruin the vibe of their page. If we just ignored them, that would spiral. So
I do, I do think it's really important that some things are handled you know, with
care, I guess I should say.
Ella Gunnell: Yes.
Laney Goff: Customer service, if it's related to that, yes. I mean that's just like
core business 101. If you're not doing that, then you're in a world of problem
and social media is not gonna be the answer to your problems. But, um, so I do
think that there is a distinction there between those, but if it's just somebody
who, like we had a customer and uh, one of our community managers emailed
me yesterday and they were saying that, you know, they were never going to
watch this TV show again because it had something in the background that they
didn't support. And we were awful people for doing it. And it was like, you're a
little crazy, you know? And sometimes you just have to decipher, like, are they
crazy? Or is this like a legit thing, you know?
Ella Gunnell: Right. Or can I actually actually fix their problem?
Laney Goff: Right.
Ella Gunnell: Because like you were mentioning, we have a couple of
customers who do have that customer service piece and people are talking
about, hey, you know, I paid this, but I never received this service or, you know,
I got charged more than I thought and that at that point, you're like, this is a real
customer. This is not a troll and we need to elevate this so that we can take care
of this and do some reputation management. So we can keep their relationship
and their trust with their customers strong.
Rachel Strella: Yes, yes. Okay.
Anna Dobbert: Well, it's like the bean soup TikTok thing, where it's like
someone was the bean soup, and someone was like, what if I don't like beans?
And it's like, well then don't make the soup. You don't have to cater to every
single comment that's coming your way. You'll spend your days replying to bean
soups. If you do that.
Rachel Strella: Yes, okay. I'd like to know how, or if it's possible, to have a
substantial social media presence if someone is camera shy.
Anna Dobbert: This one makes me think of have you guys seen the ladyon
TikTok, The Queen of Afternoon Tea. And she goes around and she blew up
recently, and she goes and she does afternoon tea tastings and she gives them
her full review, but she is very, very camera shy. And so you never see her face
or hear her voice because she entirely warps it. And so she's definitely found a
way around it. I think the one thing I would advise is if you are camera shy.
Being like a person on social media and being that active in it might just be kind
of an emotionally draining path for you to go down. And it's really that much of
a struggle, I, I would really sit there and say, okay, is this something I genuinely
want to do or need to do for my brand or business? Because if it's going to be
hard, if it's going to have this limitation on it, you're not going to get it done at
the quantity or quality that you need to.
Laney Goff: That's so true.
Ella Gunnell: I think there's levels too. Like, I have a friend who, kind of
similar to what you were saying, she never shows her face on camera, but she
does voiceovers and she shows like her beadwork and her crochets. And she's
had a lot of videos blow up. And so I think that that still kind of works because
obviously like it's still content that she's filming and you still get to like hear
from her. So it feels real. I think the problem is when we get like brands or
businesses, and no one wants to be on camera and they're like, just use like
stock footage or like, just use AI. And it's like, that's not going to work. Like,
we need a little, we need something right? Even if you're not like, willing to sit
in front of a camera and film yourself, like, we got to have a little something or
it's not going to work.
Laney Goff: Actually, we had a prospect who came to us a couple of weeks
ago, and one of his big things that he said was like, look, y'all are gonna have to
come up with the content from scratch. I'm not getting on camera. I'm not, you
know, doing this. Unfortunately for us, like that. That's impossible. Like we'll
never, we'll never get you results. Now, I'm not saying that you do have to be
like camera facing all the time, but at the end of the day, people buy people.
Whether you're selling a product or a service, people buy people. So it doesn't
mean that you have to be, you know, in the camera, but like you said, like
hearing your voice, hearing your personality, those are ways that you can like
get around that, that camera shyness, but still show up and be present.
Ella Gunnell: And please don't use stock footage.
Laney Goff: Please.
Anna Dobbert: Or AI footage.
Rachel Strella: Or AI generated stuff. No, it's awful.
Jess Boozel: As someone who is camera shy and was very camera shy at the
start of joining Strella, something that Laney told me was just to pretend like
you're on FaceTime with a friend. And doing that while also just like getting the
practice of doing it multiple times was very helpful for me. I would find myself
doing like kind of like a run through take of me going through what I was
wanting to say or do in a video and then once I kind of got into a comfortable
mode I would re film it and do it in my mind, better. So that's, that's just some
advice that you could physically do to help yourself change. Because like Anna
was talking about, if this is the career path you want to be in, you have to find a
comfortable place that you can do that. And that's what, this is the career path I
want to be in. So I had to do that step. I had to get rid of my camera shyness.
Laney Goff: And now, like, if I'm like, I need a video, she's like, I'll do it.
Rachel Strella: Aww.
Jess Boozel: If I know the topic, if I know the topic, I'll do it.
Rachel Strella: Good for you. Like anything, you have to work at it. You can't
just expect it to just, you just can't expect results without putting in some work.
Jess Boozel: Yeah, exactly.
Ella Gunnell: Yeah.
Rachel Strella: Alright, um, here's a question. This is an interesting one.
Alright, so, I'm a graphic designer specializing in book design. My target group
is mostly seniors who want to publish memoirs and the like. My problem is that
they don't want to know how to make the books. They just want them done and
I can't figure out what to write about. Most of the stuff I feel like writing would
interest other designers, not my target group. Any ideas?
Anna Dobbert: This one's interesting, because Laney and I were actually
talking this one over today, and we were thinking that that kind of content that
would appeal to other designers would still appeal to seniors who wanted their
memoir done. Some things I could think of off the top of my head are like, um,
POV your memoir looks like this, or POV your memoir comes in the mail and
you didn't have to lift a finger. And it can still be the process of you making it,
and you discussing it, and you get to show them how much work they don't
have to do to acquire it. You could even be like, this took X amount of hours,
and this amount of labor, and it can be yours. And sort of frame it in that way, so
it still gets to be about you, and what you want to talk about, and what is easy to
think of. And I think that that would still have value for the client.
Laney Goff: Check, check, check, you did that. Yeah, I mean, I'm with, I'm
with Anna. I think that, that sharing your process is still going to be helpful.
Like, for us, we share a lot that like kind of caters to other social media
managers. Like we show our behind the scenes, our processes. The Ella just
made a video on, uh, Notion and how we use Notion. And our, do you think our
clients care? No, they probably don't care. Um, but at the end of the day, it does
give you more insight into how we work in general and what it would be like to
work with us. So keeping that in mind is really important because if you want
somebody to actually feel invested enough to, you know, buy your product or
your service, then they need to like see the down deeps into what it's going to be
like. And if that seems like it doesn't appeal to them, that's just because that's in
your head. It probably would appeal to them.
Jess Boozel: Yeah and I feel like showing them what you can do and showing
them the beautiful ins and outs of it will show them that, hey, maybe they can't
do that, but I can or you can do that for them. So they're like, I want your
services because I see what you're able to do.
Ella Gunnell: Yes.
Rachel Strella: And I don't want to do it myself.
Laney Goff: Ever.
Rachel Strella: Alright, one last question, and this one, oof. Alright, let's settle
this once and for all. Who's the shortest in the group?
Jess Boozel: I think it's Laney.
Laney Goff: I feel like it’s between Jess and I.
Jess Boozel: Yeah, it definitely is, but I think it's Laney. I'm five, I'm five foot.
Laney Goff: I'm five foot.
Jess Boozel: Oh, really?
Laney Goff: It's a tie.
Jess Boozel: Oh, it's a tie.
Rachel Strella: It's a tie.
Jess Boozel: There it is.
Ella Gunnell: Next meetup. We need a back to back comparison.
Rachel Strella: We’ll line you guys up like when you were little kids and put
marks the wall. See if you get taller next time.
Anna Dobbert: I will say, I think Jess was a little bit taller.
Laney Goff: Anna!
Jess Boozel: Yeah I thought so too!
Laney Goff: I'll claim it. I'll claim okay?
Jess Boozel: I felt I looking down on you.
Laney Goff: Maybe I'm like and a half.
Anna Dobbert: I think it was also when Jess and I would hang out, we'd be
wearing shoes. And then when you and I would hang out, we wouldn't be
wearing shoes. Maybe that's what it was.
Laney Goff: Maybe. I appreciate that. I do.
Anna Dobbert: Yeah! Because it was just a hair. I’m not saying like it was
crazy.
Jess Boozel: Yeah.
Rachel Strella: Since John Webster got blamed for this question, which he
didn't, he didn't do it by the way, Ella. It wasn't him.
Ella Gunnell: I’m shocked.
He thought it was Jess, and I said, I actually don't think it is. I think it's
deceiving because Laney always wears heels.
Laney Goff: I do. Would you like to, would you like to see today?
Rachel Strella: I think it's Laney, by, by, by a hair.
Laney Goff: Yeah.
Rachel Strella: We will find out. That will be the real burning question for next
time.
Laney Goff: I really know who asked. Who was this?
Rachel Strella: Alright, come out next time. Alright. Thanks everybody for
tuning in to the Untamed Social Podcast. Be ready for Season 2 next month.
We're gonna come out with more burning answers to your questions. And we're
gonna come out untamed. Are you ready for this? All right, guys.
Laney Goff: No.
Rachel Strella: Until next time. See ya.
Laney Goff: See ya!
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