PODCAST TRANSCRIPT
Welcome to the Light Her Project podcast,
Real Women.
Real talk.
I'm Rachel Strella.
and I'm Vixen Divine.
Welcome, welcome.
So how's your week going so far, Vixen?
You know, my week has gone different this
week.
I don't know if it's a thing or not, but
somebody, and it kind of just made me
think a little bit.
So I ran into two people I didn't know,
like two strangers, but then there was one
person I did know.
So that's how the connection came there.
So they're looking at me and one of the
strangers says, we're talking about
something else, but one of the strangers
says,
your makeup really looks good.
And then the next stranger also says,
yeah, it really does.
And then the person I knew was like, you
know what?
It really does.
Your makeup really does look good.
This disturbed me.
Can I tell you why it disturbed me?
Because we eluded straight out of the
gate, like to the fakeness, like to the
makeup, like not my skin.
My My makeup looked good.
So now, as meticulous as I am with my
skin, like making sure it's clear, making
sure it's like, like even now it's shiny,
like a teenager, you know, that kind of
thing.
But my makeup looks good.
And I'm like, well, wait a minute.
I have a very little makeup right now.
And they're like, that's your skin.
I'm like, yes, it's my skin.
you.
for like did you tell them it's all skin
care?
But it's weird to me it's weird that we
elude to like it can't be your skin it has
to be fake it has to be something else
Like your initial thought.
Well, yeah, perceptions are everything,
really.
If you don't know any better, if that's
what you would think.
Is it a social media thing?
Do you think it's an influence?
Hmm.
No
I think it's an assumption thing, totally.
Okay, so that was my weird thing this
week.
Well that's an interesting start to the
week.
My week was not as...
Well my week was weird too, but a
different way.
You know, we have key team out --for us
business owners that really stinks
sometimes.
You know, we have a key team member out on
a family emergency.
Someone who's involved in every aspect of
our business.
So I'm riding through the bumps and waves
of that, you know, suddenly trying to
delegate things and meet the expectations
of the clients.
But then I've also been feeling with this
health thing for a long time now, like
almost a year and a half.
I just had my third steroid injection,
hoping that their time was a charm to help
me with this pain, but we don't know.
Yeah, that's the best part.
We don't know.
Guess what?
I'm gonna go for another MRI now.
And.
That'll be another five, six weeks, so
that's in.
I'm gonna probably wait another month for
an appointment to figure out what those
results mean.
And then, you know, so like, it's one of
those things where I'm not gonna give up.
It's also like, can we just, can you just
tell me what's going on already?
And sometimes when you give up, you feel
like if you just waited one more day,
maybe that would have been it.
Yeah, but you know we have health care and
I'm grateful for that and I'm grateful for
doctors that keep trying to figure out me
and the mystery which big surprise I'm a
mystery.
But I'm gonna keep going I'm not gonna
give up and I'm gonna keep taking notes
the whole way.
That's right.
Well, let's talk about our topic, speaking
of notes.
Our topic is Effortless Order for the
Overwhelmed Life.
Yes, yes, as women, I think we do a lot.
So we talked about a lot of things before
we've talked about, you know, balance and
talked about time management, you know,
and specifically with that, I think we're
focused a little more on things like
procrastination, kind of the tips for
balancing your life, but also some fun,
really intriguing insights like time
blindness, which I never heard of before
this.
In this particular podcast though, I think
we want to focus more on the how -to of
organization as well as tips and some
tools that we use to organize our lives.
And as usual, some interesting insights
into things like, well, ADHD and women.
So before you write me off, there is
something there.
But this will be different.
And I think you should stay tuned for what
we're going to talk about today.
So as always, we've taken a quiz.
So for this one, how organized are you
really?
And it was literally two minutes.
So I really liked that.
But it was from Interact.
If you go to tryinteract .com, there's a
quiz that will basically give you this
assessment.
So, well.
What do you think, Vixen?
How did you turn out?
So since I know, I was actually surprised
at what I got because I'm not the most
organized person in the world.
I'm not the least organized, but
apparently from this quiz it says I am
nearly organized.
So I got a seven.
That was higher than I thought I would
get.
And it was talking about...
My daily routine is still a struggle, you
know, but I don't have like piles of dirty
laundry and dishes everywhere.
Like I do add kind of, I'm more as needed
kind of person.
I don't have a plan.
It's just if I see it, you know, starts to
bug me, then I do it.
Okay, fair enough.
a schedule or anything like that.
So I'm nearly organized.
Okay, hey, that's not bad, and I actually
would say I applaud that.
That's not bad at all.
For me, it's probably no surprise that it
says I'm organized.
So.
that.
I don't know.
It's something that's always been in me.
When you have so many things that you
juggle, like if you're not organized,
you're just drowning constantly.
I'm still drowning a lot, but if I wasn't
organized, I could only imagine I would
get no sleep.
But it was a fun little quiz and they give
you some tips, you know, how you can plan
smarter, streamline your living space,
stuff like that.
So it's a real quick and easy quiz.
And one of the things that I really like
about some of these quizzes is you don't
have to like put your email in and get
bombarded constantly.
It's just this is your result.
Here are some tips.
If you want more things that come in your
inbox, you could sign up for that.
So.
Yeah, pretty quick, pretty quick.
I mean, I think generally women are more
organized than most than men because we
have so many things going on.
But what's interesting and this all came
to my attention by a coworker is ADHD in
women.
So.
I did not know this, but there were a lot
of studies that have been done,
particularly over the last year or two,
many studies, that many women are
undiagnosed or misdiagnosed with ADHD.
So, wow, okay.
So, why?
Why?
Well, I've got to know though, for them to
be misdiagnosed or basically under
diagnosed, is it because we're just so
busy and we seem to be that way anyway?
So do we have ADHD or are we just doing
what has to be done?
But can we focus?
But do we need to?
Oh my.
That's a loaded question.
Depends on our output, I guess.
We're getting it done and we're getting it
done well.
Because can you fold laundry and like
watch the Kardashians at the same time?
I say yes.
Sure.
I mean, my work break is laundry, dishes,
cleaning.
The work break, working from home.
But I think the hard part is the constant
barrage of things that come at you in an
average day.
You know, from what you're being blown up
on, from text messages, phone calls,
Facebook, email.
Plus your actual things you gotta do.
You gotta run errands.
Or you gotta do your job.
Or you gotta take your kids somewhere.
Whatever, it's just so, so many things
that are going on.
It's almost like you can't fully tune out
if you have so many responsibilities.
You can't just say, well, I'm just going
to turn my phone off for five hours.
Because what if the school calls and your
kid is sick and you need to come get the
child?
So you can't, in a lot of circumstances,
just completely tune out.
So what do you do to help you stay
organized for stuff like that?
Well one of the things that I think is
even though you might have to be tuned in
to all of these things, you still don't
have to do 10 things at once.
personally, you know, that those things
might be up, you might be getting those
notifications and you're on alert for the
specific things you need.
Like I know for me personally, I only have
certain notifications set up on my phone.
I do not want to see how many emails I
have or anybody that Facebook messages me,
anything like that.
Even most of my text messages are
silenced.
Like I'll have to go into the app to see
that somebody tried to text me.
Like the things that I
to know about that are kind of more
immediate are the ones that I have
notifications set for because I know that
if I receive something from one of these
sources it's probably gonna be something I
need to pay attention to.
But I think doing one thing at a time,
otherwise is like a big key to that
really.
I try really hard because I am a chronic
multitasker.
But like on this podcast right now, I
don't have my email open.
I don't have my Slack open.
My phone is upside down.
For 30 minutes, the world is not going to
end.
For whatever it is that's going on.
So you filter.
You do, you have to filter.
And I'm, you know, for you, as a mom, of
two autistic children, I can only imagine
how that plays out for you in your
business and personal life.
I don't filter.
That's the thing.
I don't filter.
I have...
Okay, right now I don't have my messages
on because then you would hear them.
That's the only reason I don't have them
on.
But believe me, I wanna know.
My phone is off right now.
You know, like for the sound purposes, you
know, I want them, the audience to be able
to hear us and not everything else.
So that's the only reason that that is
off.
But believe me when I tell you that yes,
I'm working on something, but somebody
comes in.
Like, mom, mom, mom.
And because everything is that I need
right now.
So the only time that I actually have them
not come in, like when I have that sign on
the door that says you better not come in
unless you're on fire, is when I'm doing
something like this.
Like I'm filming something, I'm taping
something like this.
Even so, maybe, depends on the customer.
So things like that when I have live
interaction.
But other than that, it's pretty much fair
game, because I know I have to be
available because basically I'm the only
one who can put the fire out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I experienced that as a
business owner, especially at the level
that we're at with so many people on the
team, you know, it's like seven o 'clock
on Monday night, family emergency, I need
to delegate all my stuff, I'm like, oh no,
oh boy, like, well, there goes my Monday
night.
But like, you know, that's part of the
job, being a mom, that's part of the job.
It comes with the territory, it's what you
have to do.
My biggest thing for my organization that
I have, which is very little, but I have
some things that are very organized, like
my grocery list is very organized because
I will go to the store and I'll wander up
and down.
If I don't have a list, like, sure, I
always buy unnecessary things, but I will
forget something that I actually went in
there for.
So what I have them do is I have a
magnetized whiteboard
on the refrigerator with the pens, you
know, the special pens.
And so if something's low or if something
is needed, you write it on the board.
And then before I go to the store, I take
my phone and I take a picture of that.
And then when I come back and put stuff
away, you know, if they didn't have it, I
leave it on the list, but everything else
I erase.
So then the board starts over again.
And they know, you know, they're like,
Mom, did you get this?
I said, was it on the list?
Yep.
It wasn't on the list.
I didn't get it.
you're one of those people who actually
goes to the store.
I don't know the last time I stepped foot
in a store, but when I'm out of something,
I go to Instacart and I put it in the
cart.
That way it's done I don't have to worry
about it.
And when I hit $35 and when I'm really out
of something, push it through.
But I live in a different world.
do the whole delivery thing.
I just, I can't.
I'll even go pick it up.
I just can't have the delivery.
I don't know.
Once you go delivery, you won't go back.
I like I have to go to the store?
No, no, no, I don't want to be around more
people if I actually get in the car and
drive somewhere.
The only place I want to go is like if I'm
getting a massage with you or I'm meeting
friends, but like I don't want to go to
the grocery store.
Well now what then, what is your thing, so
you don't, your organization at home, so
what's your thing to keep you organized at
home?
Or you don't need anything?
At home I really don't need a lot, but I
will say that like there are certain
projects that I know have to be done in
certain increments.
For example,
This past weekend we just started kind of
redoing the countertops.
We need to restain them every year, like
kind of resurface them a little bit.
And so that's just in my calendar, pop up,
you know June 1, got to do that.
Same thing with like cleaning out the
washer, you know, whatever.
It's all in the calendar.
And then I put it on my honey to -do list.
So when it's that time to get mulch or
clean out the dryer, stain, it's on
Honey's Trello board.
Yes, the Trello
board. But we also have the calendar, you
know, and I'll invite him to the
calendar. So bling bling time to get
mulch.
Otherwise she's a good system with my
husband and I which I'm really lucky with.
It's like you know when the laundry's full
he'll take it down and start it.
When the dishwasher's full he'll start it.
Same thing with me you know whoever's
around first to be able to handle it will
do it.
It's really that simple.
As far as home what about you?
Okay, that was as far as like, like things
like the dishwasher.
I just, I do the dishwasher because I like
the only reason that I, they put things in
the dishwasher, like after they eat and
stuff, they put their own things in the
dishwasher.
But as far as running the dishwasher, I'm
the only one who runs it because they put
stuff in wrong.
So I have to fix it.
So that when it washes, everything gets
clean.
You know, you can't put a bowl in
sideways, but my family thinks you can.
I usually let my husband load the
dishwasher because I'll just shove
everything in there and slam it shut and
hit go.
Yeah.
Guilty.
But you know what?
Okay, here's a great way that I organize
my life.
Great example right now.
So I'm here on this podcast, okay, and I
am waiting for a wine delivery.
I need to sign for the wine delivery.
And I don't want to miss the wine
delivery.
So my husband is sitting up here at the
table and in case ding, you know, because
last thing you would do is miss a wine
delivery.
So for 30 minutes, he's up here on his
computer doing his thing for the wine
delivery.
Very important.
It's very important the wine delivery is
very important.
Okay.
Okay.
I can understand that though.
I can understand that.
I mean, teamwork is really essential, at
least with what I do with my husband.
I mean, if you don't have other people on
the team that are going to do their part
on whatever, it's that organizational
thing, that housework thing, then it kind
of falls apart and it all falls on you.
That's true, that's true.
I don't necessarily like teamwork, I just
like help.
I just like, I have my daughter mops the
floor, she sweeps and mops the floors.
I just like help little things and don't
put your dishes in the sink.
As long as you put them in the dishwasher,
then I'll organize it and all at the end.
Do you know what I mean?
So I just want help.
I don't necessarily want you to do it.
So laundry most they all do their own
laundry.
Everybody does their own laundry, which is
good.
So I don't do that, except I do the spa
laundry and I do my own laundry.
Okay, now even organizing laundry though,
have you ever tried to do laundry and then
like you got a kid laundry in there and
you're like, come on, I need to use this.
Like, do you ever have that problem
organizing all that?
No, no, everyone has their own spot.
Like they have their own, like it's really
separate.
It's really a thing.
Yeah, it's really separate.
I think it's important to talk a little
bit about too, like about space.
You know, physical space because I can't
work
properly if I have a pile of paper here
and stuff over here and like the worst
times in my life are when I'm doing home
projects or room renovations and stuff is
just everywhere I can't focus so I really
think it's important to take five minutes
to just like get your workspace clear get
your mind clear like I feel it's the
clutter to my mind not to see stuff all
over the place like yeah I should probably
file that
just file it.
I've got to just get it out of there
because it will clutter you and it will it
will mold it will it will totally just
pile up in and in your head and it will it
will weigh you down.
Okay, that's because of your personality.
Because for someone like me, now I don't,
but for my workspace, like for instance,
in my office where I am right now, I have
three shelves.
And on the second shelf, I have
I don't have a whole lot of stuff, but I
do have some stuff on the second shelf and
some stuff on the third shelf and like
stuff that doesn't actually need to be in
here, but I'm okay with that.
Okay, now I think it's good we're talking
about personalities because like one of
the things is that I'm obviously a type A
and everybody needs every type, I mean the
world needs every type of personality but
my type of personality is a little
overbearing for people who aren't type A.
Because I'll respond to that email as soon
as I get it.
Or I will make sure my desk is clear.
I'll make sure I'm ready and on time,
blah, blah, blah.
So.
The thing is though, a thing that I'm
learning about, so I am also ADHD, which
might be surprising, but I am.
But like I'm talking with a co -worker and
she's ADHD, but she's not type A.
And so for her, she had to learn that she
had to shut everything out, focus.
And she told me that like her mom is type
A, obviously I'm type A.
And so like when she doesn't respond,
them right away or doesn't like
immediately handle something she feels as
though she's letting them down or
something or like they might think that
she's ignoring them you know and I can
only say from my perspective as type A I
don't think that I don't expect anyone to
be as anal as I am but
I think there's expectations here and
perceptions about the reason personalities
work well together because they're not the
same typically.
So I told her that's never the expectation
for me.
do feel like though, no matter the other
person, like, don't you know that they're
not going to respond because like if
they're me, like, did you do you really
expect things from me right away?
Like, no, you don't.
I reach you, but...
message, I'm going to get a pretty instant
response unless you're with a customer.
If it's email, maybe a day or two or
three.
It depends, I guess, on what it is.
But, you know, everybody, you learn how to
work with people and their expectations.
So what I think some people might feel is,
oh man, I don't know if I'm like if I
should respond to this right away.
And guess what?
They don't.
You know, I told her, like, you get
everything done.
falls through the cracks.
So I don't expect any immediate response
to anything, you know, and if I really
need something, you know, I will follow up
with you.
But like, honestly, I don't expect anybody
to be as anal as I am about responding and
being on top of things.
Because we have people on our team that
are on top of things and like they're not
on top of things.
They might respond right away, but then
major things fall through the cracks.
So I feel like it's okay to be who you
are.
are and don't feel like you need to owe
any explanation to anybody for who you
are.
Well, I feel like as long as you're
getting it done, and I know we talked
about this a little bit on a separate
podcast, but whatever, whoever you are,
whatever your personality type, as long as
you're able to function, you know, in
whatever you're doing and you are getting
it done, you know, as necessary, then I
feel like it's not a problem.
No, you don't work, like you and I are not
the same, but.
Yeah.
I get it done, you get yours done just as
necessary, you know, as needed.
So as long as things don't get neglected,
because that's where a problem, you know,
as long as you have your own strategy in
doing it, that's okay.
That's okay.
Yep, or done just like, well, like,
responding is one thing, but if you're
going to respond, I still want it done
well, you know, so, but I don't have that
problem with like this particular person
I'm talking about.
It's always going to get done well, you
know, and I actually look at it more like
they can manage my personality because I
am kind of over communicative and anal,
you know, if they can deal with that,
still get the job done well, like I give
them all the credit.
So it's all about working with other
people, team, but let's talk a little bit
about boundaries though, while we're on
this, because I feel like...
We are all in a state of constant
communication, feeling we can't, like fear
of missing out, you know, on anything.
But you have to set boundaries.
You have to pick and choose some of the
things that you decide that you're going
to respond to or handle.
How do you decipher that?
Well, that's where I do filter.
I look at everything.
I want to see every single message, spam.
I want to see everything.
But then, I'm not going to get past that
title.
Like, who it's from makes a difference.
And then what that line, that intro line
says is everything on whether I'm swiping,
swiping, swiping, swiping.
But I want to read it.
Because that fear of missing out, I don't
want to miss anything.
So I'm going to read every single one of
them.
And then I want to swipe and that's where
I'm going to filter.
So that's what I'm going to do with that.
And so that I feel like I know it not
everyone people do filter where they don't
even get them.
They don't even read them like if they
don't.
But yeah, fear of missing out right here.
Yes.
I get that.
Yeah.
I mean, I get everything and it depends on
what it is I want to chime in on.
One of the things I think too that we
should talk about really briefly is like,
we are all overwhelmed.
We all have too many responsibilities.
I think it's important to consider too
like when you have a large to -do list,
what is realistic about what you can get
done?
I know that it can be overzealous like we
could say yeah I'm gonna be able to do
this and go to the gym and take the dog
for a walk, get the laundry done and watch
Kardashians.
But one of the things that's been helpful
for me is I like lay out my day and I'm
like that's gonna take me a half hour,
that's gonna take me, and it worked
backwards.
I'm like okay I have eight
in a day, realistically a work day, okay I
started blocking 45 for that, this, that,
that, then you got to block it, you've got
to block out the pop -up requests, you
know, something's gonna happen, doesn't
matter what it is, and I feel like when
you actually look at your day like that,
you realize how much you're taking on that
you don't have a time to do.
Okay, so yes and no.
Yes where, see it depends on how long that
task actually takes you.
What you block out and then how long it
actually takes to get done.
Because I don't do like you do, like I
don't have like this 30 minute block or I
expect this to take 45 minutes or that
sort of thing.
But what I do is I put them in order of
importance.
Because no matter how long it takes, I
want to get this one, two, three done, the
rest, you know, bonus, bonus, bonus,
right?
So after, if I get tired or if I'm done,
I'm just done.
I'm just, I'm just done.
And it just moves, it just moves to the
next day.
You have to.
I mean, I think we all do that.
But the problem I think is we have too
much on the list.
We realistically don't have enough time
for all the things on the list.
You know, and that's where we have to be a
little more realistic.
Like, can I get all of those things done
today you know and and and I had a former
speaker that was speaking at a woman's
group I was at she said first thing every
woman should do at the beginning every day
is eliminate one task from their to -do
list very smart
One task eliminated.
Okay, so.
If you don't need it, if it's not going to
be done today, get it out of there.
And if I put it on the bottom of the list,
it'll probably get done tomorrow anyway.
But I think it's a good approach because I
think it's a little bit when we tend to
overdo that list.
We're like, we can get all that done.
Come on, we'll multitask.
Yeah, we'll do that while we're talking
this, doing that.
So I think more realistically is what is
the one thing we actually don't need to
get done today?
And see ya, it's out of our brain, out of
our mind for the day.
So, yeah.
But I think as far as getting things done
and organizational things, the things that
are most expected are the top of the list.
It's expected and needs done.
That's the top of the list.
So a list for me is vital.
I'm not as organized as like a Trello
board.
I am a write things down.
Like I'll write a list for the day down
and then I will erase as the things get
done.
But the top of the list is the most
important because I don't expect to get
everything done on the list.
Sure.
I think I realized that my list is
probably too long.
So it never upsets me or bothers me that I
didn't get everything done on the list.
So you use a Trello board, I use the
writing it down, the writing it down by
hand.
But if you establish an organizational
routine, I think if somebody can do that,
that really does help.
Yeah
My personality type, like a routine, as
much as we should have one.
No, but if you can do it and stick to it,
it would make you so much more organized
and so much better.
thing.
When Trello goes down, it goes down
actually quite a bit, I feel like naked.
I'm like, where's my Trello board?
This is organizing my day, you know?
I know mentally what's on it, but I need
to see it so I know that I'm on task.
You know, all my meetings in there, all of
my to-do's are in there.
So, well.
We're coming to the end of this podcast,
but this was a lot of fun.
I invite the audience to share
organizational tips that they have or that
they've learned.
With AI and all these other things, I
mean, even more and more opportunities
abound for us to organize our life.
It's just deciding now if we have to
organize our life to figure out which AI
tool we're gonna use and prioritize, but.
Well, thank you for tuning in to the Light
Her Project Podcast.
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